SlideShowPro v.1.3.5 with thumbnail nav

at 15:10 on 26 August 2006, schnuck wrote:

a commercial, third-party flash-related product is surely a stylegala top-news. once the world has css 3, one could even make the title "blink". cool.

at 15:52 on 26 August 2006, Greg-G wrote:

Schnuck, I've been following your bad vibes here in stylegala and just had to comment. Why are you here? This site has nothing for you. Just move along. Rather than being a complete prick, just go to another site.

at 17:48 on 26 August 2006, schnuck wrote:

following my bad vibes!? i only post "negative" when i am forced to. and no, cameron, i love stylegala and visit it regularely, because it DOES have stuff for me.

if complaining about the quality of posts or "news" makes me a "prick" and you the better person - well, then i am glad to be a prick, but you should look into a mirror anytime soon.

p.s. did you notice that you haven't even explained why you did post this "commercial, third-party flash-related product" as a stylegala news? is it a pal of yours?

at 18:03 on 26 August 2006, schnuck wrote:

please exchange "cameron" into "greg-g" - my mistake, i admit. and drop the p.s.

at 20:23 on 26 August 2006, Kyle wrote:

This web app is sexy, I've been eyeing it for a while now. "Friend" news or not, I still like it lol.

at 02:21 on 27 August 2006, Kevin Cannon wrote:

schnuck,

What would you define as design news? Do you expect breaking stories in the web world and that stylegala will turn into some kind of CNN for design? I'll bet you would be complaining if there wasn't news posted regulary. If nothing can make you happy, then leave. Just leave.

at 17:48 on 27 August 2006, David B. wrote:

hey guys, I think this item is fine, there are pleanty of css sites that use this product. being about standards does not exclude any of the options available to us designers, and that includes flash, if standards shows us anything its that there is a standard way to design and use ALL of the webs products/code, used appropriately flash is a nice enhancment to a site

all that said to say flash is fine when uses apropriately. I guess schnuck, your argument should be "is Slideshow and appropriate use of flash" not simply "this is flash, so it has no place"

at 00:41 on 28 August 2006, Kyle wrote:

David, I don't think his beef is with the product being a Flash product. I believe he thinks it's just an advertisement in the news, for a "pal" as he said.

at 07:37 on 28 August 2006, Smithy wrote:

I think it's pretty obvious that the problem is that this is a commercial product, not that it has to do with Flash.

I guess it's okay for the admins to do this though?

at 14:28 on 28 August 2006, Cameron Moll wrote:

Sorry to hear some of you mistakenly feel this is friend linkage. Not the case. Thumbnail nav is a pretty big improvement over the previous UI (numbering), and plenty of CSS sites use SlideShowPro already...

at 15:04 on 28 August 2006, schnuck wrote:

NO, Kevin Cannon, after reading your comment i must say, i am the last person who should "leave, just leave" stylegala - stylegala is not DIGG, news are fine, news are great (positive or negative) but this is not DIGG - i am expecting news about webstandards, xhtml, css, usability, accesibility etc. but not about any new great findindings in the flash-sector etc. (in special if it is about a commercial flash product) maybe YOU should consider leaving stylegala for good and visiting flashkit.com instead?

nothing, i repeat, nothing justifies advertising a commercial flash-product and stylegale. maybe i am wrong...

p.s. thanks david b., but in this case things are different i am afraid.

at 16:40 on 28 August 2006, Jonathan wrote:

I understand Schnuck's point. I've seen SlideShowPro and have been considering using it for my own site to display my photos without using Flickr. It's a very well designed web application. Notice I said "designed". The SlideShowPro site looks very nice, uses css AND Flash.

at 19:42 on 28 August 2006, jlactose wrote:

I just don't think this is very worthwhile to anyone, other than the creator of the software. they get links from the stylegala homepage directly to their site, and we get unexpectedly advertised to. if anything, this should be one of the text or image ads on the right of the page. not news. sorry everyone but schnuck's right. this site isn't just a bulletin board for posting anything you want. people come here for css info. especially the free kind. the less value we, the users of the site, come across per visit, the less we'll be inclined to come here to find it next time.

at 22:18 on 28 August 2006, David wrote:

I guess the bottom line is that there have only been two complaints about this post, being that there are hundreds if not thousands of people that visit this site everyday, two complaints does not bare your opinions out.

and not that anyone expects the 'silent majority' to all some in a speak their mind, but we have all seen how riled up the community can get and how many comments from individuals can be mustered when a lot of people are in agreement about something. jsut look at any recent gallery entry to see what i mean

at 22:23 on 28 August 2006, David wrote:

on another note, somebody, i think it was shnuck -not sure- in another post said that we arent the average users we know a bit about the design circle, that being true then why would someone with this knowlege click on this link in the first place, surely one 'in the loop' has previous knowledge of what slideshow pro is?

why not jsut ignore the link i guess?

at 01:06 on 29 August 2006, Wayde Christie wrote:

I'm a designer.

I use SlideShowPro.

This is perfectly relevant, and important news to me.

I really don't see what the issue is.

Furthermore, there is no way that this perfectly valid news item would've raised a single eyebrow 12 months ago, but unfortunately it seems that everyone has an opinion lately about what Stylegala "is" or is "meant to be".

It's not the quality of the news items turning me off Stylegala at the moment, it's the constant bitching, by so-called Stylegala advocates.

at 01:10 on 29 August 2006, Smith wrote:

David I believe the better thing to think about is: users who dont know what it is will think that it's something on par with the quality of other news posts on this site, and click on it. Not knowing that it's something that they'd have to purchase. SlideShowPro's owner is probably wearing a huge grin right now, because the advertisement (that is what it is) didnt come from the public news (where one half-expects this sort of thing these days) but from the bona fide News section.

at 01:11 on 29 August 2006, Smith wrote:

And should we also expect an advertisement here when Mint 2.0 comes out?

at 08:27 on 29 August 2006, Marko Mihelcic wrote:

Great improvement ,thumbnail nav is great!

at 14:23 on 29 August 2006, jlactose wrote:

Thanks Smith. Sorry to the rest of you that might consider this bitching, but in an effort to get this site back on its feet, we might as well try and get all of its content in the right place. This item is certainly not news.

at 17:05 on 29 August 2006, David B. wrote:

what do you all consider news? are you saying that anything with a price tag is not relevent to designers as news, you made mention of mint2, does this include the new versions of adobe software that 80% or more of the designers that use this site, use. or is it because its adobe, a pervasive software manufacture its ok, should there not be any mention of the new OS for mac or PC when they come out, really guys, should we not put up the new carbon made site, yes it has a free version , but it also offers a paid service.

should the MIX07 not be posted, or any other design conference? after all it is a paid event. any improvments to 37signals products should go unpiblished on this site? what becomes relevent and nonrelevent based upon whether it has a price tag can get very hairy, it seems that all you guys want to see is tutorials and articles, which is fine, but there are also other avenues on this site to view such happenings. and the news should be IMHO broader. I maybe wrong...

at 17:28 on 29 August 2006, jon wrote:

ding ding ding, we have a winner.

well said david b. well said.

at 17:46 on 29 August 2006, Smith wrote:

I completely understand what you're saying David, and it's a really good comparison. However, I dont think you can compare SlideshowPro and Mint with Adobe's products and MacOS and Windows, they're completely different in terms of the sheer amount of people using them.

That said, I dont feel I have anything new to say about this. It was an interesting conversation, and I know that all everyone wants is the best for this site, and we wouldn't all agree on everything.

Keep up the good work David and Cameron.

at 18:01 on 29 August 2006, Cameron Moll wrote:

Thank you.

at 23:39 on 29 August 2006, David B. wrote:

Thanks, Smith, everyones words here have not fallen on deaf ears, i think we all just neededd to have this conversation, Im somewhat surprised that the person who actually posted this hasnt chimed in though :)

at 09:15 on 30 August 2006, deviant87 wrote:

schnuck, i can't not reply to your posts.

Are you implying that this site should only be about CSS, or that it should only like to 'free' open source projects?

I appreciate the quality of SlideShowPro, so what if it's flash?

Users don't get an orgasm over how overly standards complaint your site is, they love clean and well designed interfaces, really design isn't about the code it's about giving users something they will like and love.

I am not saying standards compliancy is irrelevant, it is really important from a technical and programmers point of view, I just believe some people get too caught up with it and think that CSS is the tool that can do it all for web design

at 21:23 on 06 January 2008, Logo Designers wrote:

i use SlideShowPro all the time

at 00:16 on 18 June 2008, Internet Web Design wrote:

SlideShowPro is what I use for galleries

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